Comments on: Fast Trash! http://urbanomnibus.net/2010/05/fast-trash/ Exploring the culture of citymaking Fri, 10 Feb 2012 12:28:36 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: trashpatch http://urbanomnibus.net/2010/05/fast-trash/comment-page-1/#comment-69942 trashpatch Wed, 24 Nov 2010 22:40:49 +0000 http://urbanomnibus.net/?p=17184#comment-69942 A long time ago I heard an old friend say, “you know, the cleanest city is not the one that is cleaned the most, but rather the one that produces the less trash.” Recently, I was happily reminded of this old saying while reading a draft proposal put forward by The New York State Department of Environmental Conservation that seems to spring from a similar metaphor: to reduce the amount of waste created right from the very beginning. Check out our blog post about it: http://web.me.com/trashpatch/Blog/Blog/Entries/2010/7/16_Beyond_Waste__A_Paradigm_Shift.html A long time ago I heard an old friend say, “you know, the cleanest city is not the one that is cleaned the most, but rather the one that produces the less trash.” Recently, I was happily reminded of this old saying while reading a draft proposal put forward by The New York State Department of Environmental Conservation that seems to spring from a similar metaphor: to reduce the amount of waste created right from the very beginning.

Check out our blog post about it: http://web.me.com/trashpatch/Blog/Blog/Entries/2010/7/16_Beyond_Waste__A_Paradigm_Shift.html

]]> By: Richard Dattner FAIA http://urbanomnibus.net/2010/05/fast-trash/comment-page-1/#comment-24526 Richard Dattner FAIA Mon, 21 Jun 2010 19:34:23 +0000 http://urbanomnibus.net/?p=17184#comment-24526 Riverside Park Community (3333 Broadway), designed by Dattner Architects with Henri LeGendre and Max Wechsler, was built in 1970-73 and included a pneumatic tube garbage collection system patterned on Disney World--which we visited for guidance. Trash was compacted in each of the five towers housing a total of 1200 apartments, and then "tubed" to the central collection containers. Not sure if still in operation. Riverside Park Community (3333 Broadway), designed by Dattner Architects with Henri LeGendre and Max Wechsler, was built in 1970-73 and included a pneumatic tube garbage collection system patterned on Disney World–which we visited for guidance. Trash was compacted in each of the five towers housing a total of 1200 apartments, and then “tubed” to the central collection containers. Not sure if still in operation.

]]> By: Rick H http://urbanomnibus.net/2010/05/fast-trash/comment-page-1/#comment-19769 Rick H Thu, 27 May 2010 14:07:55 +0000 http://urbanomnibus.net/?p=17184#comment-19769 This system does not address separate collection of recyclables or organics. Pulling those out afterward would probably not work very well. Typical mixed waste processing systems can only recover about 10-30% of the recyclables, and so I imagine that amount would quickly drop to less than 10% after mixed waste has been sucked through a tube at 60 miles per hour and everything has been smeared together in the process. So would you have three lines to each building or a traditional truck-based collection system for the recycling and organics? This system does not address separate collection of recyclables or organics. Pulling those out afterward would probably not work very well. Typical mixed waste processing systems can only recover about 10-30% of the recyclables, and so I imagine that amount would quickly drop to less than 10% after mixed waste has been sucked through a tube at 60 miles per hour and everything has been smeared together in the process. So would you have three lines to each building or a traditional truck-based collection system for the recycling and organics?

]]> By: Ira http://urbanomnibus.net/2010/05/fast-trash/comment-page-1/#comment-17742 Ira Sat, 15 May 2010 12:19:59 +0000 http://urbanomnibus.net/?p=17184#comment-17742 This system is pretty incredible, seeing as how none of this has been adopted into a larger scale. NYC has all these treasures of innovation, it's a shame that they do not get carried further out. Sometimes we literally need to take a few steps back and revisit some old ideas, like this one from the 70s, to be able to move forward. This system is pretty incredible, seeing as how none of this has been adopted into a larger scale. NYC has all these treasures of innovation, it’s a shame that they do not get carried further out. Sometimes we literally need to take a few steps back and revisit some old ideas, like this one from the 70s, to be able to move forward.

]]> By: Ron Fischer http://urbanomnibus.net/2010/05/fast-trash/comment-page-1/#comment-17283 Ron Fischer Thu, 13 May 2010 17:18:52 +0000 http://urbanomnibus.net/?p=17184#comment-17283 This type of trash collection system is also used in Walt Disney World in Orlando, Florida. The company which originated it is Envac from Sweden http://www.envacgroup.com/ This type of trash collection system is also used in Walt Disney World in Orlando, Florida. The company which originated it is Envac from Sweden http://www.envacgroup.com/

]]> By: Mark http://urbanomnibus.net/2010/05/fast-trash/comment-page-1/#comment-17245 Mark Thu, 13 May 2010 12:52:12 +0000 http://urbanomnibus.net/?p=17184#comment-17245 So if this was set up in 1975 does this not predate the Dyson? Its really just one of those on a huge scale? So if this was set up in 1975 does this not predate the Dyson? Its really just one of those on a huge scale?

]]> By: newman http://urbanomnibus.net/2010/05/fast-trash/comment-page-1/#comment-17203 newman Thu, 13 May 2010 07:09:06 +0000 http://urbanomnibus.net/?p=17184#comment-17203 wow, this is fantastic, thanks for bringing it to my attention, designers of thefuture take note. wow, this is fantastic, thanks for bringing it to my attention, designers of thefuture take note.

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